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Juniper Workshop - Saturday March 9th (18 Feb 2019)

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Saturday 9th March, 2019 10am at the Bonsai South Nursery (114-116 The Boulevarde, Caringbah NSW 2229)
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Survey question, what Ficus do you grow?

8 years 7 months ago #19797 by Jerry Meislik
I am interested to know what Ficus species you grow and which work well for bonsai and which in your opinion do not.
Thanks.
Jerry

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8 years 7 months ago #19798 by Peter Woosley
Living in Southeast Queensland, i grow the following:

1. Queensland small leaf fig.
2. Port Jackson Fig.
3. Willow leaf fig.
4. Ficus Natalensis.
5. Tiger bark fig.
6. Green Island Fig.

I find all of these respond in very similar ways with the one exception which is the Green Island Fig, which needs to be kept extremely dry. It tends to get a lot of branch die-back when kept wet for long periods.
My personal preference is most likely the willow leaf fig but it is very difficult to pick out a favorite as they all have their unique features. The least favorite i think is the Natalensis, this maybe a bit premature to make this judgement as i haven't been growing them for very long, but the information i have learned from others with regards to them is that they drop branches easily and for no apparent reason.
Looking forward to hearing others opinions on this one.

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8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago #19800 by Leong Kwong
What is stated here is from the experiences gained from growing fig in Sydney conditions in the last 25 plus years. As for Aussie figs the best suited is in the following order:-

1. Ficus rubiginosa
2. Ficus obliqua
3. Ficus eugenoides
4. Ficus hillii
5. Ficus platypoda

As for non native figs is in the following order:-

1. Ficus nerifolia/salicifolia
2. Ficus microcarpa var. Formosama
3. Ficus microcarpa var. kimmen
4. Ficus microcarpa var. fukien China
5. Ficus microcarpa var crassifolia
6. Ficus natalensis

From expreience rubiginosa buttress very well, then obliqua follow by eugenoides. This also applies to ramification of branches and branchlets, budding back and the reduction of leaves. The other point is a longer growth peroid in comparison to eugenoides ??? could this be the reason that is native to a warmer region.
As for non native nerifolia would be my pick, the budding back, the natural small leaves, the compactness etc etc. Only problem, scale, it cause lots of damage. var. fukien China is the pick for root spread, respond to prunning formosana and kimmen, for quick fast bonsai natalensis and for bright green look crassifolia and beautiful small leaves. Bulk of my fig collection are of these few varities.

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8 years 7 months ago #19802 by Taffy
I have:
Benjamina (various types - standard, baby ben etc.
Coronata (sandpaper fig 1 from the wild)
Eugenoides
'Glomerata' (no positive on what this thing is).
Green Island
Hillii
Natalensis
Nerifolia
Obliqua
Opposita (sandpaper fig 2 from the wild)
Platypoda
Pumila
Retusa
Rubiginosa
Rubiginosa with small leaf (Little Ruby?)
Tiger Bark
Superba
Virens
'Watkinsiana' (but definitely isn't).

Benjamina is 'ok' but not my preferred tree to work with.

Coronata and Opposita - just about useless - seems to be slow growing and suffers a lot from scale and sooty mould. Doesn't bounce back too well from heavy pruning.

Eugenoides, Obliqua, Rubiginosa - excellent, grow exceptionally well and just about bullet proof in our climate. I particularly like the profusion of aerial roots that these three in particular put out.

Hillii, Platypoda, good material to work with. both grow well in our climate.

Green Island. Good to work with, but don't find the same problem as Peter. My Green Island are in the same mix as all my other figs and they all get the same amount of water. Even though we only live approximately 185km apart, our climates are noticeably different.

Retusa also a good species to work with (under rated tree I reckon).

Natalensis. Not too bad but branches need to be wired early as they get brittle very quickly.

Pumila is ok for being a 'unique' fig in that it twists and coils itself naturally.

Nerifolia is good but not as quick growing as the Australian native figs.

Tiger Bark. I have one but haven't really worked on it enough to make a judgement.

Superba, Virens. Good trunk and branch growth but being deciduous, it is almost impossible to reduce the leaf size. When the new leaves set after winter they revert to full size again. Not good Bonsai material unless you want a very large tree.

Overall, I think my list of preference for the top six would be

1. Rubiginosa
2. Eugenoides,
3. Obliqua
4. Platypoda,
5. Retusa
6. Hillii

Regards,

Taffy

A seed is actually a tree packed ready for travel. (Bill Funk)

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8 years 7 months ago #19805 by Jerry Meislik
Peter, Leong and Taffy, thanks for your taking the time to respond.
I think this is crucial information to have available giving all of us knowledge of what plants work well and which are less valuable and which are pretty hopeless.
When everyone responds, who is going to respond, I can pull the list together and any comments on individual species and post it.
Thanks again and looking forward to the information we can glean.
Jerry

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8 years 7 months ago #19813 by Dayne
I have,

Qld small leaf Eugenoides and Obliqua.
I find tough and virtually pest free,
It back buds well thickens quickly and leaves reduce well.

Hilli.
Just started with a heap of cuttings and twisted in to a clump.
So far so good they have rooted and had great growth so far.
Great bark colour and texture.
Nice small berries.

Nerifolia.
Great foliage tiny leaves.
Down side i have found is not as hardy as the natives,
More prone to pest and disease slower to thicken and in over all growth.

This is all i have at the moment but am going to start with some ground grown Burtt Davy this spring.
These are just my findings in my area with my techniques.

Thanks Dayne.

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8 years 7 months ago #19821 by Jerry Meislik
Thanks Dayne.
Appreciate the input.
Jerry

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8 years 7 months ago #19823 by Jerry Meislik
To add my experience.

Ficus benjamina and multiple cultivars including variegated *
F.burtt-davyi dwarf*
F,destruens***
F.ingens***
F.microcarpa, multiple seed grown, Green Island, Long Island, Tigerbark, Medium Leaf **
F.natalensis **
F.obliqua ***
F.palmeri
F.rubiginosa **
F.salicaria/Willow leaf**
F.repens/pumila
F.religiosa and hybrids of religiosa/virens
F.sycomorus
F.virens Thai and Australian forms *


* forms that work well for me growing indoors
**forms that are especially recommended
*** forms that I have too little experience with

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8 years 7 months ago #19828 by Fabrice Decroix
My contribution


ficus abutilifolia (seeds. I need to wait to see if it's interesting.)
ficus americana (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus afganistanica (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus benghalensis (nursery. Not interesting)
ficus binnendykii (nursery. Not interesting)
ficus cyathistipula (nursery. Not interesting)
Ficus deltoida (nursery. Interesting but does not grow faster, it's a shrub)
Ficus elastica (nursery. Not interesting)
ficus burkei (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus burtt-davyi (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus carica (seeds, nursery, yamadory. Very interesting.)
ficus cordata (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus craterostoma (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus glumosa (seeds. I need to wait to see if it's interesting.)
ficus ilicina (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus ingens (seeds. Very Interesting.)
ficus lutea (seeds. Not interesting.)
ficus macrophylla (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus microcarpa (nursery. Very interesting.)
ficus natalensis (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus obliqua (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus platypoda (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus racemosa (seeds. interesting.)
ficus religiosa (nursery. interesting.)
ficus retusa (nursery. Very interesting.)
ficus rubiginosa (seeds, nursery. Very interesting.)
ficus salicifolia (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus sansibarica (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus sur (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus sycomorus (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus thonningii (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus velutina (nursery. Not interesting)
ficus verruculosa (seeds. Very interesting.)
ficus virens (seeds. Very interesting.)

ficus spp Costa Rica : 3 (seeds. I need to wait to see if it's interesting.)
ficus spp Madagascar : 2 (seeds. I need to wait to see if it's interesting.)

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8 years 7 months ago #19833 by Peter Woosley
My goodness Fabrice.......you have quite a nursery happening there....lol

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